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(Psst! Don't forget to tell me a strange story and win a book!)

To say that the small city I live in is home to a majority of practicing Christians would be kind of like saying if you visit Israel you might find some Jews. This is a city where it's common to see businesses promoting themselves with the fish symbol for Christians follower, or a big sign saying, 'I ♥ Jesus' on the wall in my son's preschool. I've been asked repeatedly if I believe in God during casual conversations. Once I had to explain to a teacher that the Torah doesn't normally include the New Testament.

With this as his daily environment, it's not terribly surprising that Javier has come home from school to solemnly announce that "Jesus is rainbow-coloured," and to make sure I know that Jesus can fly. He drew a picture of a church as a gift for his teacher (the one with the 'I ♥ Jesus' sign), and she gave him a hug and asked him if he went to church too.

Last Wednesday, a very large but completely harmless wolf spider came crawling across the kitchen floor right where Javier was removing his shoes. He did his usual 'I-think-I'm-culturally-required-to-react-like-this' cringe and scream thing then watched until it disappeared under the shoe shelf, doubtless to end up as a snack for one of the cats.

Then Javier said, "Spiders belong to Jesus."

Dom and I looked at each other.

"You mean, Jesus made spiders?" I tried, thinking that either Jav or one of his friends at school had misremembered the creation story from the Bible, and wondering how I could steer the conversation (again) to Mommy and Daddy's atheism while still encouraging Jav's belief in magic and Santa Claus. (Early childhood is all about cognitive dissonance. Don't look at me like that.)

"No," Javier said. "Jesus didn't make spiders. They belong to him. And ants."

"Who told you this?" I asked, now confused as hell.

It turned out it was his teacher, and after several more minutes of circular questions and answers and a very frustrated five-year old, the flummoxed parents were finally told this:

One of my kid's classmates at school had purposely stepped on some ants. The teacher had told him not to, because ants belong to Jesus. I'm afraid I don't remember how Jesus ended up being the patron saint of Arachnids as well; it's possible Jav's teacher said so, or Jav decided it himself since spiders are also freaky and creepy-crawly. It's horrible! It must belong to Jesus!

His teacher didn't say why Jesus has this particular relationship with arthropods however, which is where my brain exploded. I ended up fumbling around a simplified version of why some people might think that Jesus owns the world by proxy until Javier's eyes glazed over and he asked if he could watch TV.

I'm sure that at this point Javier thinks that Jesus was a real man who was killed because he was rainbow-coloured and who lives in the sky but not really and who can't grant wishes because you need rainbows to make a wish, except Jesus is rainbow-coloured so maybe he can, and he doesn't own the world but does own ants and spiders and lived a Long Time Ago but not when the world was a baby world and there were dinosaurs.

I'll just be over here contemplating the psychiatrist bills. And mopping up my brain.

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12/12/10 03:28 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] taste-is-sweet.livejournal.com
That story about letters to God/Santa and the atheist boy cutting to the quick is fantastic. Good on the kid for not being afraid to say what he believed, too, though I doubt his classmates appreciated it. ;->

I personally don't believe in a God per se, but I also feel that there are more things in heaven and earth than are dreamed of in our philosophy, so to speak. Hopefully Javier will also be able to come to his own satisfying ideas about the universe when he's older. Right now, however, his biggest concern is whether Santa will bring him everything he wants for Christmas. Hee.

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14/12/10 16:56 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] natsuko1978.livejournal.com
Jordan (the kid in that story) was both great... and a real pain in the neck to have in class. *I* didn't really appreciate his argument - logical and clever as it is - because he went on to use it to justify having written the prayer, "Dear God, please kill James," in his exercise book - and James *saw* it. Ruckus in the classroom. He did not agree with me that it might not matter what you say to God, but it *does* still matter what you say and/or write about people. :|

One of the reasons I like the Unitarian Church I attend (though from what I can gather, things are different in US Unitarianism) is that while it is rooted in Christianity, ALL spiritual paths are welcomed and explored. Unitarians I know range from liberal Christians who haven't found a denomination they agree with, through pagans, to Buddhists, to agnostics: anyone who wants to explore human spirituality and feels the need for "something" even if they have no idea what that something is. No one tells you what to think or believe and you write your own "Creed".

The one thing I actually agree with Professor Richard Dawkins (famous UK scientist and "evangelical" atheist: he wrote a book - "The God Delusion" - in which he argued that, like "voices", or serious adult belief in fairies and unicorns, belief in God should be seen as a fracture in the brain/mind; a sign of madness. I don't agree with MUCH he has to say about faith and religion!) is that it is ludicrous to describe a CHILD as Christian or Muslim or whatever (Jewish is slightly different because it has cultural and ethnic values too). Since children (pretty much by definition) do not have the intellectual or emotional maturity to reach a final concusion on the matter, the faiths in which they are being brought up are as much "theirs" as their parents' politics are.

I think the best thing both parents and schools can do is teach children the processes of thought and enquiry and give them the freedom to draw their own conclusions. It's wonderful that your hope for Javier is just that - it's so easy to hope that our kids will agree with us. :)

I hope you, and your husband, and Jav have a wonderful time over the Holidays.

(BTW: did you see that I belatedly replied to your comment on my LJ, in that rather involved discussion we're having?)

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13/1/11 21:47 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] taste-is-sweet.livejournal.com
Hey, you! I am not so great at replying as usual, but here I am...

Interestingly enough I stumbled across the website for the local Universalist-Unitarian church yesterday when I was looking for information on children's choirs (Javier loves to sing, but we can't find vocal lessons here for a kid his age). This church has a children's choir. When I started reading about who they were and what they believed, I was really, really surprised. There are apparently atheists in the congregation, and apparently no one believes that Jesus was the son of God. Amazing. Reading the website articles, it occurred to me that my personal beliefs seem to match very closely to this particular church, which is something I never thought I'd say.... But I wouldn't mind Javier being part of that.

Thank you for what you said about Javi--I of course do hope he'll agree with my values and beliefs, but as long as he's healthy and happy I've already promised myself to stand back and let him be his own person. :)

I hope you had great holidays, too! I think I wasn't informed about that LJ comment, actually, so thank you for pointing it out. And again I apologize for not answering right away.

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